In this episode—recorded in late March, 2020—folklorist and radio producer Rachel Hopkin interviews Patricia Gallagher Newberry, national president of the Society of Professional Journalists and head of the Journalism program at Miami University in Oxford. Newberry discusses the fluctuating and sometimes fraught relationship between U.S. Presidents past and present and the press. She also addresses issues concerning fake news and offers tips on developing discernment with regard the value of media output.

Play the episode here.